None the less, I can’t be the only person hoping Nintendo will follow their lead on this, right? Because a legal source for Nintendo music on the official site would be a great resource if you ask me, and could potentially make even the popular music uploaders like GilvaSunner and such like obsolete (no offence to GilvaSunner, but an above board/legal place to get video game music would be appreciated)
Of course, here’s hoping a Nintendo equivalent would both not be Japanese language only and have a much larger selection of games/songs to choose from. But it would be a good idea, right?
Well, that’s the latest evidence that’s available in regards to the release date of these games, seeing as a Japanese retailer has listed them as available on said date, as can be seen here:
Unfortunately, it seems the page in question has been removed, either because it was a mistake or Nintendo told them to take it down, which doesn’t exactly bode well for the accuracy of this release date. You can see what it used to look like below:
Translated with Google Translate/Chrome browser obviously, hence the weird wording and the fact it’s not in Japanese.
Still, here’s hoping the date is fairly accurate since the Japanese version coming out this summer gives some hope the game’s US/European releases will be around the same time.
Want to know which characters seem most likely for Super Smash Bros 4? Well look no further since this article is intended to sort of factually figure out whether fan favourites are likely to be playable characters in said games. So let us begin with the first character…
1. King K Rool
Yes I know the picture is of Kaptain K Rool. But even those in Japan know its the same guy, right?
And a pretty likely choice this guy is too, given that he’s supposedly topping the opinion polls in both the US and Japan, and that oh so many people have suggested him for Brawl.
Other than that, here’s why he seems plausible:
He’s got a great potential moveset with his different forms and attacks. This puts him above the other DK related favourite (Dixie Kong) simply because he’s not a Kong and can actually have a great number of original attacks that don’t make him play like a Diddy Kong clone.
He would fit perfectly into any adventure mode as an adversary. Heck, this scene showing DK’s banana hoard being stolen seems almost written for K Rool and the Kremlings:
Above: Why was Bowser in this when K Rool would have fitted perfectly?
His costumes in past games would work great with the alternate costume options in any Smash Bros game.
Finally, he could easily have a stage based on any one of his arenas. The Flying Krock seems like a good choice:
Above: Imagine how great this’d look with HD graphics for the airship and orchestrated music.
All in all, I’m betting K Rool is practically a sure fire bet for the fourth Super Smash Bros game.
Ghirahim, the not so final villain of Skyward Sword.
Unlikely to be in Smash Bros 4 to be perfectly honest due to the fact he’s only been in one game. Not to mention the fact said game wasn’t even on the same console as Super Smash Bros 4 will be, meaning that there’s a high chance the Wii U Zelda game will be out prior to Smash Bros.
This is possibly the killer blow for the guy’s chances when you think about it, the only reason people initially wanted either Midna or Zant in Brawl was because Twilight Princess just happened to come a year or so before and there was no Wii exclusive Zelda game on the horizon.
Talking of Twilight Princess and Smash Bros, one only needs to look back a few years to see that not every major series game of the moment gets a character in that generation’s Smash Bros. Keep in mind that both Midna and Zant were extremely well liked and requested as Smash Bros characters to the point of having whole websites dedicated to them and still neither got into Brawl as playable despite it referencing Twilight Princess in every other way.
So even if by some miracle no 3DS or Wii U Zelda is upcoming between now and when Smash Bros 4 is out and the Skyward Sword style ends up applied for all Zelda elements in the two games, there’s still a very high chance Ghirahim won’t be in as playable. Sorry Zelda fans.
3. Mega Man
The Blue Bomber in Smash Bros 4? Eh why not.
Pretty much guaranteed this one, since Capcom themselves said they’d have let him be a character in Brawl if Nintendo/Sakurai had bothered to ask them.
So if Nintendo ask for him as a third party character to represent Capcom, chances are Capcom will say yes and he’ll end up playable.
As far as other factors towards whether he should be included go, Mega Man fulfils all of them. He has a near infinite amount of potential movesets that could be used (how many weapons has he had in the past again? Likely well over a hundred if the total number of Robot Masters fought is any indication), he’s been in many, many video games on Nintendo platforms and hence has a long history with the company, he’s got many good stage/item/boss ideas based on things from the original series alone and well, there’s a metric ton of awesome music they could remix to boot.
Above: It’s blatantly obvious this theme could end up remixed and orchestrated for a Smash Bros game
Of all the third party characters ever mentioned, he seems most likely.
Loved by the furry fandom everywhere!
Hard one to judge here, seeing as the Star Fox fan base is pretty split over whether she’s a good character and would deserve to be in a Super Smash Bros game.
On one hand, she’s got a few interesting attacks due to her staff from Star Fox Adventures/Dinosaur Planet, and hence wouldn’t be another Fox clone like Falco and Wolf was. Not to mention it gives Nintendo a good reason to reference Adventures and put a Dinosaur Planet style stage in to boot.
Unfortunately, she’s not that popular in Japan, and very much a polarising character in the US and Europe. This along the fact Star Fox hasn’t had a very good run on the Wii, DS or 3DS makes me wonder if they’ll even bother adding a new Star Fox character for Super Smash Bros 4.
Oh, and she’s not actually in Star Fox 64 3D, which means her recent appearances are few and far between. Not the most likely character then, even if she would be an interesting one to play as.
Yes that’s Meta Ridley, but his meta form always looks so much cooler…
We get it, people say he’s too big. They do have a point, but…
Nintendo is a business. If the money makers think Ridley as playable will sell copies of Smash Bros 4 and make the most money, then he’ll be playable. ‘Geek’ opinions don’t factor in at all.
Would he work? Not sure, he’d look weird at a small scale. But he would definitely have moveset potential and be a notable enough character.
But I rate his chances at pretty good just because Nintendo wants money and hey, Ridley being playable equals more money.
Vaati, still plausible?
Plausibly a bit more likely than Ghirahim given he appeared more than once, but he’s unfortunately been absent long enough from the series (minus the Four Swords anniversary edition thing) that I wouldn’t be too surprised either way.
He would have an interesting moveset based on his magic spells though, and his demon/winged eye form would be good for a final smash.
7. Black Shadow/F-Zero Character
Unlikely to get given Ganondorf’s moveset.
Probable if Sakurai wants to add another F-Zero character, but the series has kind of died ever since F-Zero GX back on the Gamecube (not one new game from the DS onwards), and with Ganondorf’s moveset not changed in Brawl and unlikely to change in the next game, I don’t think Nintendo are going to give this guy the same abilities.
But hey, if a new F-Zero game comes out in the near future, maybe that’ll help his chances.
8. Any Wario character
One of the Wario characters some want playable in Smash Bros 4.
Chances are non existant if you ask me, and this is coming from someone who actually likes and plays both Wario Land and WarioWare!
Okay, I do see more Wario elements in Smash Bros 4, with maybe a few Wario Land inspired songs and perhaps a stage, and some more trophies based on both Wario Land and WarioWare. But a character? Unlikely. Here’s why:
It’s not a major Nintendo series any more. Really, it’s only doing a bit better than F-Zero at the moment, and that’d had terrible luck getting any new player characters. Not to mention the pool of ‘potential playable characters people will actually care about’ is practically non existant (more on that in a second).
So what about characters? Well face it, who’s really a ‘regular’ in the Wario series anyway? For Wario Land, that’s pretty much solely Captain Syrup, and even that’s stretching it a bit (three appearances in video game history). For WarioWare, it’s pretty much Mona, Jimmy T, Dr Crygor, Orbulon and Nine Volt. You can possibly add Ashley, and if you count duos Kat and Ana and Dribble and Spitz, but they’re either fairly irregular (Ashley, with only three appearances) or nearly never shown as solo characters (the duos), and only the Ice Climbers have ever since been playable as a team.
You then have to consider that practically, no one mentioned here ever fights anyone hand to hand, so they’d have to make up a whole moveset from wholecloth. Sure it worked for Captain Falcon and I think Fox, but it’s a little tricky to do so for a fairly obscure character many people have probably never heard of, especially when they have basically no combat experience.
Finally, it’s been about three years since a Wario game of any kind came out, so it’s not really high on Nintendo’s radar at the moment.
So yeah, seems a bit unlikely. Not saying it’s 100% impossible (heck, maybe Nintendo will actually decide to give some Wario character fighting abilities and let them enter the fray), but the series isn’t doing too well at the moment and plausible characters are thin on the ground.
Because people apparently forget he has an Illusion ability.
Seems like an obvious replacement for Lucario/Mewtwo, doesn’t he? Unfortunately, I have to say I’m not convinced of this character’s chances for multiple reasons.
For one thing, he’s really not much like the characters mentioned and doesn’t seem like he’d work well having similar abilities.
And the biggest issue is the signature ability of the Pokemon in question. Think back a bit, what exactly was the biggest draw for him when Black and White were new? The ‘Illusion’ ability. This changes Zoroark’s appearance so he looks like a different species, or like the Pokemon in the last slot in the party.
But this ability is near impossible to replicate in a fighting game. Everyone in the same room can see you select him which takes away any surprise element to begin with, the AI… well the AI already cheats like crazy and has the uncanny ability to bypass any tricks that change the view of the screen/invisibility/illusions, so would probably see right through it and for anyone who for some reason didn’t clock it immediately, it’d fall apart the minute he starts fighting.
For the first thing, in Pokemon, he doesn’t copy the abilities or stats of the character being impersonated. He still just uses his own attacks/own typings/own stats and you have to plan carefully to make people think he’s someone else. Now imagine this in Brawl. Will people really be fooled if Zoroark (presumably a somewhat agile character with no outstanding physical abilities) is pretending to be say, Ganondorf? Or Kirby? Or Sonic? Ganondorf going at full sprint would cause many people to get suspicious pretty quickly, as would a Kirby with only two jumps and a Sonic with no super speed. Then add the fact no character has the exact same attacks as Zoroark would, and that he can’t copy their attacks if it’s based on the ability as in game, and it falls apart extremely quickly.
Also, he has different attacks to Lucario/Mewtwo, and it’s doubtful you could make him plausibly act like either of them.
So unless they make him a Mewtwo/Lucario clone despite being nothing like either and somehow not even have the ability people care for, it’s rather doubtable he’ll be used to replace them.
[Add image of your own Mii here]
Seems fairly likely to be included to be perfectly honest, as much as people don’t think they’re proper Nintendo characters. This is because recently games like Wii Sports, Wii Fit and Wii Play have been massively successful and Mario spinoffs with them (like Mario Kart Wii and 7) have had them turn out to be popular characters as well.
Let us choose a Mii from our collection, give them a bunch of sports related special attacks and make Wuhu Island a stage, and that seems like a pretty excellent (and rather likely) way to represent the Wii era of Nintendo in Super Smash Bros 4.
Also, look on the bright side longtime gamers, being able to use custom Miis mean you can theoretically remake all the non included human characters you like from obscure Nintendo games. Everyone wins!
11. Little Mac
Having conquered the boxing ring, will he join Smash Bros?
The boxing champ from the Punch Out games (assuming you win of course) seems like another fairly likely new Super Smash Bros star, and here’s why:
He comes from a series that’s all about fighting and hence has plenty of potential attacks to use. Presumably that all involve punching his enemies in the face.
A recent Wii Punch Out game was released just after Brawl, meaning that he’s still sort of relevant and has also had a series revival.
The boxing arena seems like a fairly plausible battle stage to represent the series.
He has his own final smash in Giga Mac.
With all that factoring into the equation, it seems very much like he’ll be in the next Super Smash Bros game as a playable character, as well as one that’d be easy to make into a capable fighter.
12. Mewtwo (return from Melee)
THE original legendary
He’s extremely likely to be in the next Super Smash Bros game. Heck, he was once meant to be in Brawl but presumably cut for time constraints (his files are labelled on the disc and he has various animations, victory theme, etc).
So it seems quite likely Nintendo might just include him in the next game like they did in Melee. When you then keep in mind he’s a fairly popular Pokemon among many types of gamers. Is he most popular? Nope, but he’s close:
In a recent Japanese poll he came fifth after Arceus, Darkrai, Deoxys and something else, and in US polls he usually comes second after Charizard (who’s already playable in Brawl)
Either way it’s likely he’ll return in the next Super Smash Bros game.
Cannot take a hit to save its life. Would that carry over into Smash Bros?
See above and Mewtwo’s popularity? Well in some regions, he’s nearly/even more popular and a well known Pokemon too.
This gives him an excellent chance of being a new playable character in the fourth Super Smash Bros game. Maybe not as high a chance as Mewtwo due to the fact he’s less popular in the US and possibly Europe, and Smash Bros has to take into account what fans all over the world want as far as who gets included goes, but a good chance regardless.
Anyone who thinks Rosalina is important to Nintendo is living in denial.
No chance in hell. Sorry Rosalina fans, but her chances to be in Smash Bros as anything more than an assist trophy are about the same as an ice cubes chance of survival in the sahara desert.
You see, she’s just not a very important character in the Mario series. Not only has she only appeared twice in mainstream Mario games (aka not spinoffs), but one of these was basically a cameo shoved in at the end of the Perfect Run. Oh, and she doesn’t even appear in two of the recent main Mario platformers (New Super Mario Bros Wii and Super Mario 3D Land), and is unlikely to appear in the new 2D Mario game for 3DS or the inevitable Wii U game.
So with that said, ask yourself this question:
Is Rosalina anywhere near as important to Nintendo as anyone else mentioned on this list?
Is she more important than Mewtwo, who was actually cut from Brawl?
Is she more important than Princess Peach, Bowser, Meta Knight, King Dedede and well, Mewtwo who were cut from the original?
Also likely not.
To put it all in perspective, she’s pretty much a complete nobody/D List Nintendo character to non overly obsessed Mario fans. You’d be much more likely to see characters like Waluigi and Paper Mario (also mentioned in this article) than you would see Rosalina become a playable character.
15. Paper Mario
Perhaps too much like normal Mario, even with different attacks?
A character who’s chances of an appearance are arguably about 50/50 if you ask me. On the one hand, he’s well known and has starred in four well liked RPGs, and would have all kinds of interesting attacks and abilities based on either badges, partners, pixls or Crystal Star/Star Spirit moves.
There are also a lot of potential places that could be used as battle arenas in the Paper Mario series (Bowser’s Castle, Shy Guy’s Toy Box, X-Naut Fortress, Rogueport, Castle Bleck, The Bitlands or wherever the hell Paper Mario 3DS has the chapters set in) as well as an almost ridiculously high amount of music that could be used (every single boss has their own leitmotif and battle song for instance).
However, some things kind of take away from his chances. For one thing, and this will probably sound like heresy to the internet:
Paper Mario isn’t that popular
That isn’t to say it’s not a great series because it is. But it’s nowhere near as influential as the internet would have you believe, and could be ranked alongside Firefly, Snakes on a Plane and Buffy the Vampire Slayer as series which appealed greatly to college age kids but didn’t catch on as well with the mainstream. It’s not quite as obscure as Psychonauts or Okami, but generally it’s not a multi million selling series that can sell games by name alone.
This theoretically means Nintendo has an awful lot of other characters that would be more popular in Smash Bros than any Paper Mario one.
The other problem and one more specific to Paper Mario himself is that he’s basically just Mario. New abilities and moves yes. But he’s still Mario, and some people are likely to be a bit annoyed if the roster has two different Marios on it. If it was say, Dimentio or the Koopa Bros or Count Bleck or Lord Crump or whoever else, then people wouldn’t find it much of a problem, but with people generally cynical about ‘clones’ and overly similar characters, another Mario is probably not the best choice.
So his chances seem to be okay, but not fantastic.
16. Bowser Jr
If Bowser Jr gets in Smash Bros 4, we know Nintendo has no taste.
He has a better chance, although I’m going to be honest and say that he has enough of a hatedom towards him that any polls used for character inclusions are going to be very much against him.
Don’t know to be honest. If Sakurai is going with the ‘most used Mario characters for playable’ rules, he might end up as a character in the games, but if he’s going on general popularity among players, then it seems pretty hopeless for him.
Everyone’s cheating but me by getting into Smash Bros 4!
The wildcard of the Mario series, Waluigi seems like a plausible enough character let down by one important thing.
He has no identity yet. Despite being in who knows how many fantastic games and his general presence in most of the Mario series, he has very few defining attributes, little in the way of unique moves/abilities and zero presence in the Wario series itself.
They could make him fight with sports equipment, but that seems like something that’ll likely get given to Miis if they turn out to be playable due to the influence of Wii Sports.
How would they classify him? A Mario character or a Wario one? What would his stage if any be based on given how the biggest role he ever had was in DDR Mario Mix? He has some decent music in the form of the Waluigi Pinball:
and Waluigi’s Island:
Themes, but… he seems like a difficult character to use well. And when it comes to choosing between someone for whom a whole new moveset would have to be designed for and someone who’s already got a plausible set of attacks (any other major Mario character), who’s Nintendo likely to choose?
Still, he’s well used enough in the Mario series that he seems to have a chance.
People still care about Geno?
Rather unlikely now, since he’s near enough third party due to being owned by Square Enix and hasn’t had an important appearance in about 16 years.
Is he even worth trying to get as a playable character any more? Because practically he’s in the same situation as Oswald the Lucky Rabbit was prior to Epic Mickey, and I don’t think Nintendo are going to sell of an employee to buy him back like Disney did for Oswald.
On the other hand… Metroid Other M didn’t do so great and people really like Geno, so part of me cynically thinks ‘sell Sakamoto and his career off to Square in return for Geno becoming a Nintendo character’. Just kidding, honest!
But seriously, it seems like Nintendo aren’t going to go to any amount of effort to get the rights back for a character who fell into irrelevancy about 16 years ago and appeared in just one fairly obscure Mario game. His Super Smash Bros chances are pretty much non existant.
19. Nightmare (from Kirby)
Nightmare, the secondary antagonist in the Kirby series.
No, you didn’t read that title wrong, a few people have really suggested this guy:
He’s probably not the most likely new character for Super Smash Bros. Maybe a bit more likely than Rosalina considering he’s had more ‘important’ appearances in the Kirby series than said other character had in the Mario one, but that’s still a long way from ‘has a chance in hell at being a playable character in Super Smash Bros 4’
He has potential in regards to having a moveset, a custom stage and a theme tune though, if that helps anything.
20. Dillon (Dillon’s Rolling Western)
A potential Smash Bros character?
Doubtful unless Sonic leaves to be perfectly honest, since his moveset would probably share a few similarities and his newness leaves it up for debate whether he’d even be considered.
Good character, but seems unlikely just because he’s a new Nintendo one, and it seems likely he’ll need a few more playable appearances to be considered for a Smash Bros game.
21. Earthworm Jim
The cult favourite few have heard of!
Not a very likely character for Super Smash Bros. Maybe if he was a Nintendo character then they’d be willing to bring him back and use his Smash Bros appearance to restart his franchise again like they did for Punch Out and Kid Icarus, but he’s a third party character and hence Nintendo would have to get permission to use him.
Unfortunately they won’t. This is because he’s not had a new game in a few years and wasn’t ever particularly popular when he did. Given that Mega Man, Tails and Simon Belmont are all not characters in Super Smash Bros, then it seems unlikely Nintendo is going to be to choose him.
On the bright side, if he did appear, we’d get a really nice new stage from the deal, the graphics and ideas in the games are fantastic.
Sonic’s sidekick seems a plausible enough character choice
Sonic’s sidekick seems like a pretty likely character for the next Super Smash Bros game, heck he was even rumoured to be in the last two (remember that ‘beat 20 opponents at Cruel Melee’ thing that EGM used for April Fools Day some years ago?)
All in all, he fits all the criteria for a plausible new third party character perfectly. He’s well known, has his own unique moveset and would work well alongside Sonic in a fourth Super Smash Bros game. Not to mention he’s the most likely Sonic character not already included in a past Smash Bros game.
All in all, a likely new third party Super Smash Bros character.
23. A Golden Sun character
Isaac, the main character from Golden Sun (first game)
Another pretty likely choice, although it does make me wonder who exactly would be choosen to represent the series (don’t all three Golden Sun games technically have a different protagonist at first?)
Still, there’s a fairly good chance that we might get a character from the series as a new playable character, there’s no shortage of possible ‘candidates’ or special attacks/abilities to choose from.
24. Shulk (Xenoblade)
Will Xenoblade get character representation already?
A possible new character, although perhaps an unlikely one due to how Xenoblade Chronicles has been treated by Nintendo recently.
It was a good game and I guess the main character might work, but it’s still just one game, and for Nintendo to take a chance on a character from just one game seems rather optimistic on their part.
Not to mention ability wise he’s yet another sword user, which is getting to be the most common type of character in the Smash Bros series as of now. Do we really need another?
Our favourite Engrish speaking evil lunatic as a Smash Bros character?
More possible than Rosalina and a few others on the list, but I’m not putting money on his inclusion.
On the bright side, he does have a lot of popularity among people who actually know who he is (like most Mario fans), as well as his own Wikipedia page (any character with one is at least notable enough the mainstream know about them) Not to mention that there’s no denying he’d have some kickass theme music to act as his theme tune:
Plus, a great track to go with his stage:
He’s also got a lot of abilities that could work as special attacks, like his ray gun from Inside Story, his magic attacks from the original and the black holes/portals from Inside Story, along with Dark Fawful as a costume option.
However, a few problems:
For one thing, Mario & Luigi has never been the worlds most popular/well known Nintendo series (just like Paper Mario), and Fawful has only ever appeared in said series. This puts his chances as less than those of Waluigi and possibly Bowser Jr since those characters are generally a bit more well known.
The other issue is that he’s nowhere near as well known as the current Mario characters from Melee and Brawl (excluding Dr Mario), and might be a difficult choice to justify. Heck, pretty much ANY Mario character might be a difficult choice to justify now, the ones currently included are pretty much the characters everyone knows by default while the many requested ones are nearly unknown outside the Mario fandom.
But he’s got a chance, if Nintendo is willing to take a risk on an RPG series only antagonist. Heck, a Super Smash Bros appearance could even salvage his chances of reappearing in the Mario series as a major character, since there’d probably be quite some demand for him as an enemy in the Mario platformers if he turns up as playable in Super Smash Bros 4.
Kamek as playable character? Whoa…
As a Yoshi series rep of course, since he’s the nearest thing to a unique antagonist the Yoshi’s Island games actually have.
Seems plausible enough, although I still can’t imagine what his attacks would be (presumably using magic would be his neutral B attack and using his broomstick would be his up B attack), and I’m not at all sure what he’d bring as far as stages/story mode stuff/anything else goes.
There are some issues with his inclusion though, namely that he’s also a Mario character making the line between the Yoshi and Mario series rather blurred indeed.
Does the Yoshi series even need another rep? Not sure. But I rate his chances as at least okay.
In conclusion, that’s what I think as far as which characters suggested for Super Smash Bros 4 are most and least likely. But I admit I don’t know too much about some of them, and hey maybe some I criticised have more of a chance than I give them credit for. Do you agree with the thoughts presented? Either way, post your thoughts in the comments or forum topic below!
P.S. All character ideas are based on real suggestions by internet users. Each and every single one was suggested by at least one pseudonymous commentator. Some are hence a bit unlikely.
It arrives this month in Japan apparently, and has quite a few interesting things. For one thing (and very unlike every other piece of downloadable content in video game history), it’s actually free for the first month so Nintendo is actually not ripping people off as badly as most companies do.
After that it costs 300 yen (£2.50/$3).
The expansion includes Marth as a playable character and a new map that you get Marth to join your group for clearing for the first time.
Here’s Nintendo’s promo image:
Not too much of a rip off cost wise, but come on Nintendo, why not just make these additions free permanently and stop trying to bilk even more money from your loyal fans?
Nintendo Power have confirmed the game is coming to the US eShop/Virtual Console soon, although they haven’t yet said a date.
Still, they previewed it in their latest issue and describe its release as ‘imminent’, so if you like platformers, you should definitely consider buying Wario Land Super Mario Land 3 when it comes out over there.